Anthony Hall is a leading expert on empires and imperialism, and joins PBC and Sibel Edmonds for this new edition of the Boiling Frogs interview series. Hall is professor of globalization studies at the University of Lethbridge in Canada. Hall provides us with an overview of his recently released book Earth into Property, and discusses the relationship between the dispossession of Indigenous peoples and the making of global capitalism, beginning with Christopher Columbusâ€™s inception of a New World Order in 1492. He tells us how the US corporate state moved to fill the vacuum of power after the dismantling of the formal empires of Europe after the Second World War, and how the US government is seeking to replicate its Cold War era role by mounting the Global War on Terror. Professor Hall talks about Obama the brand, the National Security Act, the anti-imperial current, and more. He is the author of The American Empire and the Fourth World, which introduces the series, The Bowl with One Spoon. â€œEarth Into Property: Colonization, Decolonization and Capitalismâ€ is the second volume of the Bowl Project.